The #1 Independent Movie & TV News WebsiteSR ORIGINALSMOVIE NEWSMOVIE TRAILERSMOVIE REVIEWSTV NEWSPODCASTS Currently Hot Topics: X-Men | Game of Thrones | Captain America 2 Easter Eggs | Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Many a comic book movie fan briefly got butterflies in their stomach this week, when the news broke that The Amazing Spider-Man 2 – which has begun its theatrical run outside the U.S. – features a button scene (read: mid-credits scene) that is actually a promo for X-Men: Days of Future Past, which arrives in the States just a few weeks after the Spidey sequel. However, before everyone could get too excited about Sony and 20th Century Fox taking the first baby step towards a crossover with the respective studios’ Marvel properties, the truth came out: it’s really part of an agreement worked out between Sony and Fox, so that Amazing Spider-Man director Marc Webb could return on the sequel (paving the way for him to direct Part 3 as well). Nonetheless, the idea of a film crossover between all/some of the quadrants of the entire Marvel Cinematic Universe – Marvel Studios’ shared universe, Sony’s Spider-Man universe, and Fox’s X-Men and Fantastic Four universes – is something worth talking abut, especially as the aforementioned studios move forward with their plans to grow their superhero franchises horizontally (read: spinoffs), as well as vertically (read: sequels). Our Rob Keyes broke down the subject in depth earlier this week, but as always it’s the executives and producers behind these comic book adaptations that will be the ones who can get this ball rolling properly down the ramp. Spider-Man franchise producers Avi Arad and Matthew Tolmach previously said – in the days after The Avengers stormed the box office but before Amazing Spider-Man rebooted the webslinger’s film series – that “Everything is possible,” as far as crossovers featuring Peter Parker and other non-Sony owned Marvel superheroes are concerned. (Oscorp Tower nearly made a cameo in The Avengers‘ New York after all.) However, the game has changed over the couple years since then, which partly explains why Arad and Tolmach are now being a bit more firm with discouraging fans from getting excited about Spidey teaming with the likes of Captain America and/or Wolverine, among others (following the Amazing Spider-Man 2/Days of Future Past news this week) – similar to what Marvel Studios’ head Kevin Feige did 5-6 months ago. “I think I’m probably a little bit of the militant here. I think it will take a moment in which we’ve run out of ideas. There’s so much to tell about Spider-Man. There’s so much to tell about the Sinister Six. The relationship between Spider-Man and Venom will bring a whole other world in… Peter Parker is unique; he’s really different. He’s not an Avenger. He’s not an X-Man. He’s unique and we revere that… We don’t need [a crossover] yet. Sony has Amazing Spider-Man 3 slated to arrive in 2016, followed by spinoff films Sinister Six and Venom, which is what Arad is referring to here; most of the producer’s recent interviews to promote Amazing Spider-Man 2 have, in fact, been as focused around the “whole other world” that the sequel lays the groundwork for. Similarly, as we discussed in a recent article concerning the potential Sinister Six lineup, Venom might be the recipient of a multi-film character arc; one that begins with an introduction in Amazing Spider-Man 3, Venom joining and then rejecting the other Spider-Man villains in Sinister Six, before Alex Kurtzman’s Venom solo feature depicts the title character as a proper anti-hero protagonist. That is to say: it’s possible the Spider-Man film series will jump right from Andrew Garfield’s run as Peter Parker into the Venom saga, before continuing onward without an extended break into Amazing Spider-Man 4 (which could potentially feature someone other than Garfield as Spidey). So long as the ambitious plans for the future of the Spider-Man franchise – be they similar to the idea outlined here or not – don’t fall apart (knock on wood), there won’t really be a need and/or space for a crossover with other Marvel properties, as Arad points out. “You know Avi always refers to that question as a stunt. If you were to do that, you know, Spider-Man in the Avengers is a stunt. And I get why everybody – you know, fans and audience members and movie goers – I understand it… When you think about the Sinister Six and you think about Venom and you think about Carnage and you think Spider-Man in whatever way you want in association with those movies, they feel like they’re built for Spider-Man. Like that’s where his story needs to go and wants to go and it has to be about more than a stunt. “Stunts can be cool but it’s also a business, and so the other side of the answer is they’re owned by different companies. And there’s a ton left in Sony’s world; there’s a lot of business left because there’s a lot of story left. So for them to want to take this character and put it with Marvel and Disney is a huge undertaking and probably, as Avi’s saying, isn’t necessary until you feel like, ‘Wow, we’re sort of out of ideas. What should we do?’ And we’re far from out of ideas. Certainly Avengers had the potential to be the sort of “stunt” that Tolmach is referring to here, as does the upcoming X-Men: Days of Future Past; a crossover of sorts, which brings together the cast members of the X-Men present-day trilogy and the X-Men: First Class series cast in the same movie. Avengers writer/director Joss Whedon found a way to bring together Earth’s Mightiest Heroes in a narrative that was satisfying on its own terms, while the hope is director Bryan Singer and screenwriter Simon Kinberg’s film adaptation will do justice by the acclaimed Days of Future Past comic storyline from Chris Claremont. If Spider-Man joining forces with the other Avengers, X-Men, and/or Fantastic Four is handled in an equally capable fashion from a creative perspective, then a crossover would be welcome indeed, no matter whether or not the Spider-Man producers have “run out of ideas” by that point. The Amazing Spider-Man 2 opens in U.S. theaters on May 2nd, 2014. CLICK HERE to go to our spoilers post. Please be considerate of people who have not yet seen the film. Aaron 1 hour agoI hope they don’t recast Spider-Man as another “teenager”. I really want to see adult Peter Parker on the big screen. mess ultimate spiderman. two FILMS. Dazz 56 minutes agoUncle Ben, Captain Stacey, Gwen Stacey. That’s only three so far and he inadvertently killed them in the comics too. Big Fudge 52 minutes agoDude.. spoilers, come on.. DC less than a minute agoWhat the hell!? Thanks for ruining the surprise for me. Keep this kind of crap for the other thread you dunce. Big_Boss 6 minutes agoLOL a lot of people killed? What movie did you watch? I remember Seeing Parker act like a jerk to Uncle Ben and then letting a thief get away only for him to shoot Ben who was just on his way to reconcile with Pete. Okay that’s ONE death that is cannon in the story. lets see what else, Captain Stacey dies as he is willingly trying to help Spiderman who was busy trying to stop a biochemical weapon which would’ve messed things up for a lot of new Yorkers. That’s TWO deaths. We all know Gwen is gonna die making it THREE, and she is supposed to die by the way. AverageMovieGoers 1 hour agoAlthough this ‘crossover’ thing is a fanboy dream coming true, personally I hope they don’t do it (unless the rights are in one place). I’ve said before in another thread, I’m not too keen on the universe built for the X-Men and Spider-man so far, that’s why I can only see merging these universes with the Marvel Cinematic would do more harm (as in plotholes, studio issues, etc) than good. Just let them play in their own worlds for now. Besides there are still other Avengers (Ms Marvel, Black Panther, Doc Strange, YellowJacket, etc) who need to come to the big screen before they are running out of option to let Wolverine, Beast and Spider-man join the roster. For several years to come, no need to crossover studio just to add these guys, though once again, it would be a fanboys/girls dream come true. Goldilocks 1 hour agoI like a big huge Smorgasboard-style feast, a bountiful and burgeoning buffet, as much as the next guy and maybe even more, but just because I would probably like to sample more tasty viands than my stomach can endure, does not mean we have to use every ingredient in the kitchen to prepare every recipe to create a tasty victual, delicacy, or nummy-yummy-woo-woo! In other words, avoid the indigestion of too many characters spoiling the broth. There are a number of cross-overs I would like to see, yes indeed, but it is a move to be approached with caution, so the screen is not cluttered with characters on either the good-guy or bad-guy side. As the article said, there is so much more to be told in the individual characters’ or teams’ sagas, before we create a giant extravaganza mish-mash. Don’t get me wrong, I am not against cross-overs per se. But let’s not make every meal a blossuming banquet; there is something to be said about prudent moderation. Oneiros 1 hour agoUnfortunate, but 100% understandable. ACW 007 1 hour agoI would’ve liked a giant crossover for an adaption of “Secret Wars” and then have THAT be a lead-in to the Venom saga for the Spider-Man franchise, but they want to go the Ultimate route with it all. So scrap that idea. rod22 41 minutes agofox has to give up on making any more ff films like they did with daredevil. they produce a film or tv movie they keep them. financial trouble. Dazz 52 minutes agoI’m glad they don’t cross over at the moment because honestly, I like the MMU and I like the new Spider-Man flicks and I’d prefer them to remain separate for now. They should only cross over when Disney have established their main NYC heroes and Sony have completely blown open their Spider-Man’s world with more characters included over the next few films. Right now though, both studios have their own plans that need to be followed through before even considering allowing Spider-Man to meet The Avengers and vice versa. ACW 007 39 minutes agoOn a more personal note, it was the Sony Spider-Man films that brought me to read The Amazing Spider-Man from the beginning. Yeah, I was 7 when “Spider-Man” came out in theaters, it was my 1st superhero theater experience. And I loved it, so much so that it brought me to read the original comics. 12 years later, I’m 19 and Spider-Man is still in my head like it was in 2002. That movie alone impacted me more so than any other superhero movie, in fact the same feeling for “The Avengers” didn’t even come close. I guess what I’m trying to say is this: Sony has made a good run off of the character ever since they’ve had him, he doesn’t need to be with The Avengers or X-Men because he’s holding up against them by himself. And a lot of people, like me, love Spider-Man doing his own thing because of his character and his universe. It’s intriguing on it’s own. Click here to cancel reply. Go to Gravatar. Rules: No profanity or personal attacks. Use a valid email address or risk being banned from commenting. If your comment doesn't show up immediately, it may have been flagged for moderation. 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